А ты думаешь Денис Штейнгофф знает как оно было? Ему это не помешало высказаться вполне определенно и однозначно в поддержку Антона и с обвинениями в адрес Маргариты.
Ну вот только "как дело было" нам обсуждать не хватало!!! Влад, речь-то о качестве работы и написала она о том же, о чем уж сколько писано было не раз, и не первый год. Эта сторона ситуации (качество переводов, отсутствие базовой подготовки к такого рода работе и т.п., увы, не откровение..
Теперь понятно, что это за человек, коментарии излишни
Эт му вже поняли Ну ни чего, в следующий раз постипим немного веселей
Нет ты не понял, в статистике сайта можно отслеживать ссылки от куда идут люди, а ссыцлки мы на форуме давали, IP тут не при чем, у меня на пример он вообще динамический, отследить невозможно
Дык это разве проблема для вумных людей?
Ой, чувствую банить ему не перебанить
Да нет, мошеничество и в африке мошеничество. Мстят по другому, а тут элементарно на бабки человека кинул.
Yes, I found several visits from my counter page. No self-promotion :)
Why you were talking about the fact Anton can translate from Italian?
Yes, he can, we wrote each other so much time and I sent her many of my Italian things.
And in fact now Anton is using those things - mostly under CieloeTerra copyright - as his.
He did like that even less than a month ago in Astromaster: Anton did not even change the book title, an excursus about the first book of Tetrabiblos and his main Middle Ages/Renaissance commentators.
This is the Italian original version, I helped his Russian friend to buy it for him
But Anton does not know so well Latin, and Renaissance version is more complicated than classical one. He did the funniest mistakes, if I could laugh in this mean story,
margherita
Ребята, есть только один путь доказательств... Карту на сайт с вопросом, выслушать разбор, дать верный ответ с полной критикой... И так по каждому пункту. В противном случае - это не более, чем бессильное потрясание кулачками. Профессионализм доказывается не вербальными играми, а реальным делом... Ирине ни к чему терять время и нервы в этих помоях, свою состоятельность она уже давно доказала не только своей работой и исследованиями, но и тем, что нажила немало завистников... Как только там пойдёт скатывание в историю кармических задолженностей, а подобного не избежать при рефрене "Oh Lord, oh my God!", так самое время для "плюхи"... Из детских штанишек мы ведь уже выросли, не так ли? Внимательно посмотреть тематику обсуждений и проанализировать"проколы".
Повторюсь, там есть адекватные и неплохие участники, а есть нечистоплотные в словах и методах, вот к ним - специальное внимание. Даже навскидку заметны грубейшие проколы... То есть если десантироваться, то экипировка должна быть безупречна:)
Что касается плагиаторов и воров... Были во все времена и будут, их нужно знать по именам, да передавать эту "славу" как эстафету, чтоб однажды аукнулось негодяю...
I'm a little in difficulty here, because I cannot understand very well what you are saying, especially about me :(
Anyway there is no revenge and Dennis supports Anton Grigoryev because he is friend of his. I'm a stranger and I cannot even understand the language, but I know Anton very well.
About the horary, I'm the Moon as woman? Well so it's in Jupiter's sign, a benefic planet.
Moon is in the sixth house, because she cannot act. In fact Anton before disappearing asked around if he could have problems with Italian police- he kept my money, oops he forgot to give it back, strange. Italian police cannot do anything against Russian citizens, they told me and Anton knew this in advence.
Mars, Anton - is in the 12th, house of mischiefs in facts. In the detriment of Jupiter, because stealing money to a woman and plagiarizing other works is not a great activity.
Margherita... It's not a rare thing that someone use good attitude @ ideas for his own profit @ benefit... So now we know your story. But... Your article on your site is very interesting, your work is very useful, @ if we could help the things come true we'll do this... Now we are glad to see you with us...
Welcome!
Your article on your site is very interesting, your work is very useful, @ if we could help the things come true we'll do this... Now we are glad to see you with us...
Welcome!
Thanks, I work so much on the site, so I'm lucky when people like it.
I would pass more frequently here, just Russian is very difficult, I'm not a troll spirit, hope you understand this
Mars, Anton - is in the 12th, house of mischiefs in facts. In the detriment of Jupiter, because stealing money to a woman and plagiarizing other works is not a great activity.
margherita
Why u so concentrate that planet is in house of Jupiter, or in opposition sign..? I think its not so important.
And stealing money from man is not good too, not only from woman.
I think my english bad, but hope u can understandt it
Why u so concentrate that planet is in house of Jupiter, or in opposition sign..? I think its not so important.
And stealing money from man is not good too, not only from woman.
I think my english bad, but hope u can understandt it
Меня принципиально не устраивает курс на переписывание истории, в которой Птолемею отводится не просто второстепенная роль, но и эдакая ..мм.. "побочная", а то и вредная роль..
Ты не поверишь, я щас читаю диссер по философие не имеющий особого отношения к астрологие, но зато автор ясно и четко с соответствующими ссылками несколько раз упоминает Птолемея, как крутейшего среди крутейших, из которого все астрологи черпали инфу.
И вот кому внрить? Б-г знает какому Шмидту илим доктору Философию? Ответ по видимому очевиден.
Но удивляет, конечно, упертость Шмидта.
Цитата:
To be Anton’s friend one should be a stupid and say always how wonderful he is, he does not want people who read books around him. For him life is a competition and he should always win even when others think there is no competition at all.
Why u so concentrate that planet is in house of Jupiter, or in opposition sign..? I think its not so important.
And stealing money from man is not good too, not only from woman.
Because I don't like to be a peregrine Moon in the sixth house.
Well, better than being Mars in the 12th in every case :)
And yes stealing is hateful, but in Italy stealing to a woman is what the most awful a man can do.
A man acting like that is less than a worm. This is not penal code obviously, but in the common opinion yes.
To me it's very difficult understand Russian- i'm using a translator - so it's very unclear in which terms you are talking about Anton Grigoryev.
He is an awful and mean person. He disappeared with 1600 euro of mine and my credit card, after being sure Italian police could do nothing.
And he used an article which wrote together (and it was just published) for a Congress in Moscow in 2007 as his, just deleting my name. And he is still doing the same with CieloeTerra- Italian traditional association - recently he tried to organize a lecture based on one of their book - Anton did not even change the title- through Denis forum, Astromaster.
He plays on the fact Italians could not read Russian and Russians could not read Italian.
And his knowledge of Latin is very bad- most of the things he quotes are copied and paste from books- when - still in touch- we were working at a common project, he sent me the most absurd translations.
To me Latin is not so exotic, being an Italian, but no way to persuade him- he arrived to the point to sent me links about marginal meanings from an English dictionary of Latin.
But I'm an Italian, maybe we have better ones, no? Moreover we have almost the same word in Italian, but he insisted and insisted making laugh half Rome.
Anton Grigoryev is just a liar and a thief of women, one who lives of tricks, without any education, he has a technical school.
He could not bear I could know more than him about Italy and Renaissance for the simple fact I'm an Italian and we study at school because it's our history.
I'm very sad and unhappy of what happened because for me it's very difficult to face he is not the one I believed and I trusted blindly.
margherita
It is realy horrible, it is out of our understanding. But believe me "Conscientia - est mille testes" - this must remember everyone, AG forgot about it.
Everybody in this thread must correct his/herself. For that, just read the Grigoryev’s article about Lulin Comet. It is pretty easy to understand that nothing was “stolen” from Margareta. Yes, Anton writes about the same comet, but he did not choose the timing; it is the comet to blame. Yes, Anton uses traditional sources. What a crime! Do you really think, that Margareta has copyright on these sources?
To cut a long story short – much ado about nothing!
All the rest is a fruit of Margareta’s imagination. Don’t take this crap for granted.
Because I don't like to be a peregrine Moon in the sixth house.
Well, better than being Mars in the 12th in every case :)
And yes stealing is hateful, but in Italy stealing to a woman is what the most awful a man can do.
A man acting like that is less than a worm. This is not penal code obviously, but in the common opinion yes.
margherita
I dont like termine "peregrine". Because termes of planets are strange placed. There are several different termes systems. Also there are no termes for Sun and Moon. It means Sun "peregrine" in all sighs, exept fire trilpicitete (Areis, Leo, Saggitarus), and also it must be day. Its really strange..
If there be used halfs of the cirle.. When the Sun is not peregrine in signs from Leo to Capricorn, or from Cancer to Saggitarus.
Stealing from woman is common opinion, you said wright. But common opinion costs zero. Stealing is stealing, no matter from whom. In Ukraine, here, we have common opinion same as in your country.
I don't care anything what Denis says.
Denis does not know Anton. He never meet him.
I did even we live in different countries. If Denis is right why Anton insisted to keep my credit card with my name on it?
And why he did not give back my money for which I have the receipts of withdrawals from the city where Anton lives, Nizny Novgorod?
A man who takes money from a woman and then disappears with it, has just a name, whatever Denis believes.
A man who takes money from a woman and then disappears with it, has just a name, whatever Denis believes.
...
Мда... По поводу Антона Григорьева все понятно, обокрал женщину и был таков. А вот Денис себя поставил совсем в идиотское положение. Хотя бы место его сегодняшнего жительства должно было бы ему сообщить некие навыки в выборе стратегических партнеров. Ведь всякое непотребное обязательно выплывет, рано или поздно, наружу.